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Steps_Descending · Dec 27, 2008, 01:50 AM // 01:50

purely based on Harry potter lore

Considering wizards' magic is similar to muggle's science...

Do you think wizards have an understanding of magic similar to muggle understanding of science?

(why do I ask this? No idea either.)

I pwnd U · Dec 27, 2008, 01:56 AM // 01:56

Sure.

(That's what you wanted to hear right)

ensoriki · Dec 27, 2008, 05:18 AM // 05:18

No.
Because scientifically....if you tell me a child killed a grown man...I still want to see a corpse.
Magically if a child kills a baby, not only is a corpse not needed, but the understanding of how powerful this child, and a record of this child's power are not taken. Why would you not record the strength of this child indepth through study?
Why so magic can exist you have no clue about?

Also generally most teachers do not have the knowledge of Dumbledore.

pumpkin pie · Dec 27, 2008, 05:19 AM // 05:19

I would dig up the video and tells you where and when but I don't wanna, lazy, in one of the movie, when Ron's father ask harry potter what rubber ducky is for, (or something of that sort) and him being a man interested in "inventing stuffs" or rather enchanting stuffs, i say their understanding of magic is not the same as muggle's understanding of science.

i hope that was clear.

Eragon Zarroc · Dec 27, 2008, 07:50 AM // 07:50

a wizards's magic is not understandable because it is MAGICAL. if it was explainable in understandable logic, it wouldn't be termed magic.

Abedeus · Dec 27, 2008, 08:18 AM // 08:18

Well, if there is no rulebook (like DnD 3/4), there is no limitation.

If there is no limitation, there are basically no rules. No rules - not everything can be explained, making everything strange.

Steps_Descending · Dec 27, 2008, 10:29 PM // 22:29

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Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc

a wizards's magic is not understandable because it is MAGICAL. if it was explainable in understandable logic, it wouldn't be termed magic.

In fact, I didn't ask wether magic was explained or even explainable in coherent terms. I was wondering if Wizards understood magic as we understand our science. We have understood a lot of physical phenomenon and some branch of Physic sound like they were taken straight from a Sci-Fi novel (codifying the nature of the universe, parallel universes, those kind of things). I remember a line in one of the book implying that some wizard's job was to invent spells, to they make them up like a scientist would - analysing the effects of magic and putting it to use - or simply try random formulas and hope they don't blow themselves up.

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

I would dig up the video and tells you where and when but I don't wanna, lazy, in one of the movie, when Ron's father ask harry potter what rubber ducky is for, (or something of that sort) and him being a man interested in "inventing stuffs" or rather enchanting stuffs, i say their understanding of magic is not the same as muggle's understanding of science.

Yeah I remember that scene. Though that just shows that wizards have either little knowledge of muggles or that they really didn't evolve with science/mass-production/I-tought-I-had-a-third-item-there (or that M. Weasley is an idiot). That doesnt mean they don't understand magic.

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Originally Posted by ensoriki

No.
Because scientifically....if you tell me a child killed a grown man...I still want to see a corpse.
Magically if a child kills a baby, not only is a corpse not needed, but the understanding of how powerful this child, and a record of this child's power, are not taken. Why would you not record the strength of this child indepth through study?
Why so magic can exist you have no clue about?

Also generally most teachers do not have the knowledge of Dumbledore.

Is it me or you are not making sense there...

jiggles · Dec 28, 2008, 06:36 PM // 18:36

Luna lovegoods mother died because she was experiementing with stuff nobody understood. So im going to hazard a guess and say that they both have about the same understanding.

Steps_Descending · Dec 29, 2008, 01:07 AM // 01:07

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Originally Posted by jiggles

So im going to hazard a guess and say that they both have about the same understanding.

Woohoo first yes!

I pwnd U · Dec 29, 2008, 01:13 AM // 01:13

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Originally Posted by I pwnd U

Sure.

Uhh pretty sure I said yes first. (Sure is the same thing as yes) kthx

*Darcy* · Dec 29, 2008, 04:13 AM // 04:13

Yes. Magic is their science.

wetsparks · Dec 29, 2008, 05:18 AM // 05:18

Probably I suppose. We know what we need to know and what we don't know we bend what we do know to fit. They do pretty much the same thing.

Steps_Descending · Dec 29, 2008, 06:28 PM // 18:28

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Originally Posted by I pwnd U

Uhh pretty sure I said yes first. (Sure is the same thing as yes) kthx

Yeah but his arguments were better

fenix · Dec 29, 2008, 10:54 PM // 22:54

Well, in my opinion I think that the wizards have a far greater understanding of magic than we do of science. But yeah, they definitely don't understand it all, because there are always new spells being 'invented'. One good example was Sectumsempra, which was invented by Snape. This spell and others that had been mentioned throughout the books show that there is definitely a lot more that hasn't been discovered yet.